Tri-State ISRA question...

[larrymatt]

Ron Hershman of Fast Ones just released a new Falcon-style motor called 'The Demon'... Longer brush life... increased performance/brakes... $12.00 price tag.

Any possibility that Tri-State ISRA would consider approving this motor for its its Indy Lite, and B-Production Lite classes?

Pretty please...

LM

[HillbillyYart]

when will these be available to try? Hillbilly

[larrymatt]

He just announced them today...

[EdC]

FU-7 DEMON MOTOR $12.00 RETAIL

the part number I am sure will cause some looks.......

[larrymatt]

Trinity has also introduced the the same motor (Evil 9)...

Reports are these new motors are similar in speed to the Falcon/TSR FK motors, with better brakes and longevity.

Would be a perfect fit for Tri-State ISRA. Just saying...

LM

[EdC]

and where do they fall when compared to the Hawk7?

[larrymatt]

Slower, but more dependable according to sources...

LM

[oldweirdherald]

Trinity:

11302
TEP7011 "Evil 9" (Available Aug 6th) FK size motor for Flexi (replaces F7/TSR motors) Retail $11.95 Comes with Extra long shaft on endbell size allows use of after-market Trinity comm cooler TEP7009
(posted by Ernie Provetti on Facebook)

Fast Ones:

11303
The "DEMON" has Arrived!!!

FU-7 DEMON MOTOR $12.00 RETAIL

NEW IMPROVED FASTER
LONGER PERFORMANCE
NEW AND IMPROVED BRUSH SYSTEM
TAMPER PROOF DESIGN
BETTER BRUSH GRADE
LONGER MOTOR SHAFT TO ALLOW FOR COMM COOLING HEAT SINK
MOTOR DIRECTION CLEARLY MARKED
FULL COLOR AND SEALED PACKAGING
(posted by Ron Hershman on Facebook)

[EdC]

I was just getting used to changing out my Hawk7 every other race too!

It looks like it has promise and a future in the handout class.

[La Cucaracha]

I thought that was a joke, are they really selling those?
Why not support Hershman and Trinity instead?

[fatbear]

Hmm both seem to be marketing to the dark side of racing. Maybe they should be sponsored by the Jersey Devil the baddest flat track in NJ.

[MacMoose]

Oh joy... A better (maybe) class of crap. And Fast Ones marketing a "tamperproof" motor... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[larrymatt]

I thought that was a joke, are they really selling those?
Why not support Hershman and Trinity instead?

For real Mike...

I agree.

LM

[Greg N]

Larry,

From past experience, whatever you guys do, just allow one of the motors. I have no experience with this new motor, but I can tell you that it's not a good idea to allow more than one. Also, all of these motors last longer if they are not geared too high. In GL ISRA we ran falcon 7s 2 years ago, and they were fine, and falcon 7s last year, and they were also fine.

We absolutely did not experience the one motor per race phenomenon (with either motor), more like 3-4 races/motor, but I think we gear lower.

Greg

[larrymatt]

Greg

Agreed, the FK motors live much longer on the flat tracks.

The new ones, with bigger brushes, appear to be a better mouse trap. Many last year were getting inconsistant Falcons. And if the 'new' version are indeed 'tamperproof' it would possibly eliminate the 'Chicago Falcons'...

In IRRA FK retro classes, there are motor choices. Why not in the limited ISRA 'Lite' classes that Tri-State runs? There are no mandated Open 12 or C-can motors in Tri-State ISRA...

LM

[Greg N]

Larry,

I'd say no choices just because in most (?all) US ISRA areas these motors are usually used only in beginner classes. Retro is different about this.

Greg

[RonFX]

Racers:
Hopefully this will help w/ the falcon motor questions in the Tri State ISRA. There has NEVER been any mini motor that was not legal including the SLICK 7 version. Most guys just used whatever their raceway stocked and that just happened to be a Falcon motor. If the Fast 1 and Trinity versions are similiar, I see no problem with them, but if one CLEARLY dominates, it would not be acceptable. The newer motors need to be inline w/ what is out there now or risk not being accepted by the racers.
This will help w/ the questions in Chicago. We run the Indy Lite and F Production classes as well. This helps to draw in new racers and allow them to compete on an equal level with each other, these classes are not for the upper level drivers. It has helped w/ the turnout and development as well, several drivers used these classes to learn the basics and then move up to the faster more technical classes. Both classes are run together but score separate, drivers learn how to work w/ each other better on the track.

Tri State ISRA

[larrymatt]

Thanks Ron...

Understand and agree. I'l be trying them at Washington in Sept.

LM

[La Cucaracha]

What does that have to do with Tri State ISRA?