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GearBear
06-28-2003, 01:20 AM
Well the first race has been run and it was a doozy. The Amatuer LMP race is always a good race and this one proved no different. We have 16 racers that made up full A and B mains. Top 3 finishers were:

1. Jim "Kennewick Man" Hilgartner (He also TQ'd)
2. Kenny King from Lake Tahoe (Kenny won the B main and pulled out 2nd place by 2 laps over Jamy in the A Main)
3. Jamy Johnson from Mercer Island.

Pro LMP starts at 11:00am tomorrow followed by Am Group 10, Pro Group 10, Pro IRL, and Pro 12.

oldweirdherald
06-28-2003, 02:58 PM
Amateur LMP Results

Concours: Chris Kendrick

TQ: Jim Hilgartner - 4.363

B Main

1 - Kenny King - 294
2 - Rocket Rod Rosling - 291
3 - Chris Everett - 291
4 - Phil Olsen - 289
5 - David Chimino - 289
6 - Chris Kendrick - 280
7 - Tom Van Horn - 274
8 - Justin Goldberg - 269

A Main

1 - Jim Hilgartner - 305
2 - Jamy Johnson - 292
3 - James Laconto - 284
4 - Kenny Richins - 283
5 - Phil Phillips - 280
6 - Harold Rowe - 280
7 - Jeff Goldberg - 265
8 - Ron "Zippity" Thornton - 246

Amateur LMP Results

Overall Results:

1 - Jim Hilgartner - 305
2 - Kenny King - 294
3 - Jamy Johnson - 292
4 - Rocket Rod Rosling - 291
5 - Chris Everett - 291
6 - Phil Olsen - 289
7 - David Chimino - 289
8 - James Loconto - 284
9 - Kenny Richins - 283
10 - Phil Phillips - 280
11 - Harold Rowe - 280
12 - Chris Kendrick - 280
13 - Tom Van Horn - 274
14 - Justin Goldberg - 269
15 - Jeff Goldberg - 265
16 - Ron "Zippity" Thornton - 246

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Slotracer152
06-28-2003, 03:44 PM
hope the Aussie has a better showing later this weekend :D :D :D

oldweirdherald
06-28-2003, 05:35 PM
I'll pass on your sentiments to your down under buddy (yes - the Kiwi, not Aussie), but I'm afraid our long distance traveler has picked up some sort of flu bug and had to miss the Amateur Group 10 race today. :(

We're all hoping he'll be feeling better very soon, as he has looked forward to this race and trip for quite some time.

oldweirdherald
06-28-2003, 05:48 PM
Pro LMP Results

Concours: Harvey Mitchler

TQ: Paul Kassens - 3.6991 :D

B Main

1 - Doug Yarbrough - 340
2 - Craig Rieland - 335
3 - Herman James - 334
4 - Wayne Halabourda - 320
5 - Mike O'Donell - 320
6 - Robert Lane - 312
7 - Paul Heath - 302
8 - Marty Cox - 242

A Main

1 - Bill Clemans - 354
2 - Ray Bishop - 353
3 - Ian Douglass - 346
4 - Paul Kassens
5 - Roy Hood - 337
6 - Phil Olson - 324
7 - Chris Radisisch - 318
8 - Harvey Mitchler
9 - Dwayne Roberts - 310

Overall Final Results

1 - Bill Clemans - 354
2 - Ray Bishop - 353
3 - Ian Douglass - 346
4 - Paul Kassens - 345
5 - Doug Yarbrough - 340
6 - Roy Hood - 337
7 - Craig Rieland - 335
8 - Herman James - 334
9 - Phil Olson - 324
10 - Wayne Halabourda - 320
11 - Mike O'Donell - 320
12 - Chris Radisisch - 318
13 - Harvey Mitchler - 315
14 - Robert Lane - 312
15 - Dwayne Roberts - 310
16 - Paul Heath - 302
17 - Marty Cox - 242

oldweirdherald
06-28-2003, 06:03 PM
Amateur Group 10 Results

Concours: Kenny Richins

TQ: Phil Phillips - 3.6688

B Main

1 - Robert Lane - 313
2 - Kenny Richins - 311
3 - Paul Heath - 309
4 - Tom Van Horn - 304
5 - Jeff Goldberg - 296
6 - Rocket Rod Rosling - 294
7 - Justin Goldberg - 293
8 - James Loconto - 288
9 - Marty Cox - 275

A Main

1 - Gary Johnson - 351
2 - Jim Hilgartner - 347
3 - Harvey Mitchler - 346
4 - Harold Rowe - 345
5 - Chris Everett - 327
6 - Kenny King - 326
7 - Phil Phillips - 324
8 - Chris Kendrick - 322
9 - Jamy Johnson - 316
10 - Phil Olson - 314

Overall Final Results

1 - Gary Johnson - 351
2 - Jim Hilgartner - 347
3 - Harvey Mitchler - 346
4 - Harold Rowe - 345
5 - Chris Everett - 327
6 - Kenny King - 326
7 - Phil Phillips - 324
8 - Chris Kendrick - 322
9 - Jamy Johnson - 316
10 - Phil Olson - 314
11 - Robert Lane - 313
12 - Kenny Richins - 311
13 - Paul Heath - 309
14 - Tom Van Horn - 304
15 - Jeff Goldberg - 296
16 - Rocket Rod Rosling - 294
17 - Justin Goldberg - 293
18 - James Loconto - 288
19 - Marty Cox - 275

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weedracer
06-28-2003, 07:15 PM
Is this the "Queasy Kiwi" ?

http://www.oldweirdherald.com/owhgallery/albums/2003_flats/aac.sized.jpg

:D

Slotracer152
06-28-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by oldweirdherald
I'll pass on your sentiments to your down under buddy (yes - the Kiwi, not Aussie), but I'm afraid our long distance traveler has picked up some sort of flu bug and had to miss the Amateur Group 10 race today. :(

We're all hoping he'll be feeling better very soon, as he has looked forward to this race and trip for quite some time.

I'm sorry to hear that...I know he's been planning this for a while...I hope he gets to feeling better

Dan P
06-29-2003, 10:31 AM
Right on!!!

Tell him I say hello!

And about Ron,:mad: give him a few Canandian beers or something - that should straighten him out!:D

oldweirdherald
06-29-2003, 01:18 PM
Pro Group 10 Results

Concours: Harvey Mitchler

TQ: Ray Bishop - 3.4688

B Main

1 - Chris Radisich - 345
2 - Roy Hood - 341
3 - Harvey Mitchler - 327
4 - Neal Stewart - 321
5 - Herman James - 311
6 - Paul Kassens - 262
7 - Don Perko - 249

A Main

1 - Ray Bishop - 372
2 - Bob Everett - 371
3 - Phil Helmuth - 370
4 - Bill Clemans - 369+
5 - Doug Yarbrough - 369
6 - Matt Zenovitch - 365
7 - Wayne Halabourda - 357
8 - Alicia Gilbert - 330


Overall Final Results

1 - Ray Bishop - 372
2 - "Sponge Bob" Everett - 371
3 - Phil Helmuth - 370
4 - Bill Clemans - 369+
5 - Doug Yarbrough - 369
6 - Matt Zenovitch - 365
7 - Wayne Halabourda - 357
8 - Chris Radisich - 345
9 - Roy Hood - 341
10 - Alicia Gilbert - 330
11 - Harvey Mitchler - 327
12 - Neal Stewart - 321
13 - Herman James - 311
14 - Paul Kassens - 262
15 - Don Perko - 249

The A Main was an incredible show with the entire field within a few laps for much of the race, and the top 5 within a lap of each other right up until the finish.

Ray Bishop was in 5th place going into the final heat, with Bob Everett and Bill Clemans duking it out for the lead and Phil a lap back. First Phil ran into some traffic, then Bill did, after his usual spectacular red lane that put him up with Bob after heat 7. Ray quitely snuck by them all and snatched the win by less then a lap, with Phil coming back to make the podium.

(complete results posted 7/6/03 - P.K.)

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oldweirdherald
06-29-2003, 01:26 PM
Group 12 Results

Concours: Wayne Halabourda

TQ: Phil Helmuth - 3.1979 (New Track Record!)

B Main

1 - Ray Bishop - 377
2 - Jim Hilgartner - 355
3 - Harvey Mitchler - 341
4 - Chris Radisich - 337
5 - Robert Lane - 329
6 - "Rocket" Rod Rosling - 250
7 - Gary Johnson - 217
8 - Harold Rowe - 214

A Main

1 - Bill Clemans - 380
2 - Phil Helmuth - 379
3 - Alicia Gilbert - 371
4 - Roy Hood - 368
5 - Doug Yarbrough - 364
6 - Matt Zenovitch - 361
7 - Wayne Halabourda - 352
8 - Neal Stewart - 314

Overall Final Results

1 - Bill Clemans - 380
2 - Phil Helmuth - 379
3 - Ray Bishop - 377 (from the B Main!)
4 - Alicia Gilbert - 371
5 - Roy Hood - 368
6 - Doug Yarbrough - 364
7 - Matt Zenovitch - 361
8 - Jim Hilgartner - 355
9 - Harvey Mitchler - 341
10 - Chris Radisich - 337
11 - Robert Lane - 329
12 - "Rocket" Rod Rosling - 250
13 - Gary Johnson - 217
14 - Harold Rowe - 214

Another fantastic race, as Bill Clemans, finishing in red lane, held off a hard charging Phil Helmuth on orange to take the win.

(complete results posted 7/6/03 - P.K.)

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oldweirdherald
06-29-2003, 04:19 PM
Group 12 Indy / IRL Results

Concours: Dwayne Roberts

TQ: Herminator - 4.0215

B Main

1 - Roy Hood - 300
2 - Harold Rowe - 298
3 - Phil Phillips - 290
4 - Rocket Rod Rosling - 279
5 - Jeff Goldberg - 269
6 - Justin Goldberg - 133

A Main

1 - Dwayne Roberts - 325+
2 - Craig Rieland - 325
3 - Herman James - 324
4 - Chris Radisich - 304
5 - Tom Van Horn - 291
6 - Bill Clemans - 290
7 - Gary Johnson - 47

Overall Results

1 - Dwayne Roberts - 325+
2 - Craig Rieland - 325
3 - Herman James - 324
4 - Chris Radisich - 304
5 - Roy Hood - 300
6 - Harold Rowe - 298
7 - Tom Van Horn - 291
8 - Bill Clemans - 290
9 - Phil Phillips - 290
10 - Rocket Rod Rosling - 279
11 - Jeff Goldberg - 269
12 - Justin Goldberg - 133
13 - Gary Johnson - 47

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Slidergreg
06-30-2003, 10:45 AM
How bout some official results?

I heard Herman James won both Euro races.

Great job Herman!

Greg G.:eek:

Bobhardt
06-30-2003, 10:51 AM
Zippity only ran one race?:confused:

GearBear
06-30-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Slidergreg
How bout some official results?

I heard Herman James won both Euro races.

Great job Herman!

Greg G.:eek:

You heard right Greg! Both of Herman's cars were missles! Not only did he have the fastest cars but he also ran the cleanest races as well.

Unfortunately I had the motors come loose on both my cars. (Thanks for the use of the DVR!) I was running pretty well for me in the 24 euro but ended up having the motor get a little too hot and melted the solder holding the motor in :( Anyone have a welding torch? :)

LoudCat
06-30-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Slidergreg
Great job Herman!


I'll second that! You missed some great racing Greg. Herman was in top form this weekend and earned a couple of well dererved wins. Here are a few comments on the races:

24 Euro
Even though Herman did TQ with a 2.70, there were a few other cars about as fast. Phil H. did 99 laps in one heat, which is rather amazing. Several racers had cars good enough to win but Herman drove the best race. Pit strategy played a large role in the race. Iím pretty sure everyone in the top 10 changed tires under green. Some had to change tires and gears. Those 80 pitch gears are fragile. Locals Ray Bishop and Doug Y. were second and third. Fred H. won the B main and finished 5th or 6th overall.

C1
A very close race for the first several heats. Bill Clemens had a good car and drove a great race to win by a comfortable margin. Roy H. was a little faster but had to settle for second after a couple of mid race mistakes. Going into the last heat, Dwayne R. and Doug Y. were on black and purple, about a lap behind Roy. Dwayne and Doug got into several wrecks with each other and that allowed Fred Hood to charge up from way back to take third.


GT-12
The largest field of the weekend with 32 entries. Neil Stewart won, Ray B second and Matt Z third.

32 Euro
Another great race by Herman as he took the crown from Matt Z. Matt had won the previous 4 years but had to settle for second this time. Ray B. was third

wayne h
06-30-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by LoudCat


Pit strategy played a large role in the race. Iím pretty sure everyone in the top 10 changed tires under green. Some had to change tires and gears.



that was the coolest thing about the es24 race: it seemed every racer in the a and b main had one or two-person pit crews. at the end of each heat this crowd of people rushed to the track to change stickers, change braid (sometimes mid-heat as the braid was really getting burnt up by all the rubber on the track braid), check clearance, plan tire changes, fix bodies and so on. it was a ball!

wayne h.

oldracer2
06-30-2003, 05:32 PM
Actually Roy, Doug Y used a different strategy and did not have to change tires! Yes the car was on the deck at the end, but he made it.
There was a lot of cars in the pits during this race (A Main) but Doug ran pretty clean and avoided the pits. His pit boss was a real hard a-- too! He made Doug stay on even with bad braid.

I've never seen so much copper chewed up in one race! You could barely see the floor for all the spent braid!

This was an awesome race. Herman you are King!

oldweirdherald
07-01-2003, 12:25 AM
1/32 Eurosport Results

Concours: Matt Zenovitch

TQ: Phil Helmuth - 3.3568

Final Results - (10 man round robin)

1 - Herman James - 510
2 - Matt Zenovitch - 505
3 - Ray Bishop - 492
4 - Roy Hood - 486
5 - Paul Kassens - 486
6 - Phil Helmuth - 484
7 - Ian Douglass - 464
8 - Chris Radisich - 456
9 - Mike O'Donell - 408
10 - Gary Johnson - 65

Another awesome race as Herman and Matt raced for the win within a couple laps until the last 30 seconds when a hard charging Matt simply could not reel in the smooth and fast Hermanator. As Matt pushed to catch, he came off, then crashed again in frustration while Herman cruised home for a well desrved win. Matt's 4 year 1/32 Eurosport victory streak had finally been put to an end and had to settle for 2nd.

Ray Bishop was fast and steady and came in 3rd, while Roy was fast as well. Old Weird Me was fast in the last few heats, but it was not quite enough after starting off with a slow pace in red lane. Roy cut me by about 10 feet for 4th. Phil Helmuth's car just didn't have the speed, and as he let me by in frustration he said "dammit Kassens, you better win this!". With the round robin format, we relied on the average laps screen between heats, but it was still difficult at times to tell exactly where you stand until the race is over.

A great race, and a great win by Herman James!

oldweirdherald
07-01-2003, 02:40 AM
GT-12 Results

Concours: Kenny Richins

TQ: Neal Stewart - 3.1457

32 Entries!

D Main

1 - Paul Kassens - 346 (Oregon)
2 - Chris Radisich - 331 (SoCal / New Zealand)
3 - Kenny King - 323 (NorCal)
4 - James Loconto - 309 (Oregon)
5 - Paul "Split" Heath - 303 (New Zealand)
6 - Ron "Zippity" Thornton - 280 (New Zealand)
7 - Justin Goldberg - 259 (NorCal)
8 - Marty Cox - 247 (Colorado)

A real crash fest as Chris & I somehow sucked at qualifying to wind up in the D Main with several SHS newcomers. I felt like I was in a Kiwi sandwich one heat, as I was surrounded by 3 New Zealanders beside me. :)

C Main

1 - Jim "Kennewick Man" Hilgartner - 352 (Kennewick, Wash)
2 - Dwayne Roberts - 348 (Port Angeles, WA)
3 - Kenny Richins - 339 (Moses Lake, WA)
4 - Herman James - 337 (NorCal)
5 - Mike O' Donnell - 330 (NorCal)
6 - Phil Phillips - 327 (SoCal)
7 - Tom Van Horn - 297 (NorCal)
8 - Jeff Goldberg - 268 (NorCal)

Another crash fest, as 3 Washingtonians from the far corners of the state took the top 3 spots, while a very fast Herman James was damaged early but came back to finish 4th.

B Main

1 - Wayne Halabourda - 370 (BC Canada)
2 - Ian Douglass - 355 (NorCal / B'Ham, WA)
3 - Fred Hood - 352 (CenCal)
4 - Harold Rowe - 349 (NorCal)
5 - Harvey Mitchler - 343 (BC Canada)
6 - Gary Johnson - 338 - (Fall City, WA)
7 - Jamy Johnson - 331 - (Mercer Island, WA)
8 - Roy Hood - 326 (SoCal)

Still a lot of crashing in the B Main, but Wayne Halabourda stayed out of trouble and ran away and hid from this group.

A Main
1 - Neal Stewart - 387 (Seattle, WA)
2 - Ray Bishop - 386 Issaquah, WA)
3 - Matt Zenovitch - 373 (Grants Pass, Oregon)
4 - Doug Yarbrough - 359 (Puyallup, WA)
5 - Alicia Gilbert - 359 (Maple Valley, WA)
6 - Jim Brown - 357 (Gig Harbor, WA)
7 - Bill Clemans - 161 (Redmond, WA)
8 - Phil Helmuth - 133 (NorCal)

This was a very close and fast race with last year's AFTW's Grand Champion 18 year old Neal Stewart coming back after a year lay-off from racing to show everyone that he still had it.

Overall Results

1 - Neal Stewart - 387 (Seattle, WA)
2 - Ray Bishop - 386 Issaquah, WA)
3 - Matt Zenovitch - 373 (Grants Pass, Oregon)
4 - Wayne Halabourda - 370 (BC Canada)
5 - Doug Yarbrough - 359 (Puyallup, WA)
6 - Alicia Gilbert - 359 (Maple Valley, WA)
7 - Jim Brown - 357 (Gig Harbor, WA)
8 - Ian Douglass - 355 (NorCal / B'Ham, WA)
9 - Jim "Kennewick Man" Hilgartner - 352 (Kennewick, Wash)
10 - Fred Hood - 352 (CenCal)
11 - Harold Rowe - 349 (NorCal)
12 - Dwayne Roberts - 348 (Port Angeles, WA)
13 - Paul Kassens - 346 (Portland, Oregon)
14 - Harvey Mitchler - 343 (BC Canada)
15 - Kenny Richins - 339 (Moses Lake, WA)
16 - Gary Johnson - 338 - (Fall City, WA)
17 - Herman James - 337 (NorCal)
18 - Jamy Johnson - 331 - (Mercer Island, WA)
19 - Chris Radisich - 331 (SoCal / New Zealand)
20 - Mike O' Donnell - 330 (NorCal)
21 - Phil Phillips - 327 (SoCal)
22 - Roy Hood - 326 (SoCal)
23 - Kenny King - 323 (NorCal)
24 - James Loconto - 309 (Oregon)
25 - Paul "Split" Heath - 303 (New Zealand)
26 - Tom Van Horn - 297 (NorCal)
27 - Ron "Zippity" Thornton - 280 (New Zealand)
28 - Jeff Goldberg - 268 (NorCal)
29 - Justin Goldberg - 259 (NorCal)
30 - Marty Cox - 247 (Colorado)
31 - Bill Clemans - 161 (Redmond, WA)
32 - Phil Helmuth - 133 (NorCal)

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oldweirdherald
07-01-2003, 03:26 AM
C-1 Results

Concours: Wayne Halabourda

TQ: Doug Yarbrough

14 Entries

B Main

1 - Chris Radisich - 371
2 - Harvey Mitchler - 352
3 - Paul "Split" Heath - 343
4 - Kenny Richins - 340
5 - Jamy Johnson - 323
6 - Tom Van Horn - 305
7 - Jeff Goldberg - 295

A Main

1 - Bill Clemans - 412
2 - Roy Hood - 402
3 - Fred Hood - 399
4 - Dwayne Roberts - 398
5 - Ray Bishop - 395
6 - Doug Yarbrough - 394
7 - Wayne Halabourda - 384

Overall Results

1 - Bill Clemans - 412
2 - Roy Hood - 402
3 - Fred Hood - 399
4 - Dwayne Roberts - 398
5 - Ray Bishop - 395
6 - Doug Yarbrough - 394
7 - Wayne Halabourda - 384
8 - Chris Radisich - 371
9 - Harvey Mitchler - 352
10 - Paul "Split" Heath - 343
11 - Kenny Richins - 340
12 - Jamy Johnson - 323
13 - Tom Van Horn - 305
14 - Jeff Goldberg - 295

Another fast and competative race as local racer Bill Clemans drove to an impressive win. After suffering a devastating stroke not long ago, and losing much of the use of his right arm, Bill has come back to his winning ways - now driving left handed!

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oldweirdherald
07-01-2003, 03:45 AM
1/24 Eurosport Results

Concours: Wayne Halabourda

TQ: Herman James - 2.7063

19 Entries

B Main

1 - Fred Hood - 690
2 - Mike O' Donnel - 682
3 - Wayne Halabourda - 680
4 - Chris Radisich - 615
5 - Harold Rowe - 598
6 - Kenny King - 597
7 - Tom Van Horn - 495
8 - Paul "Split" Heath - 148
9 - Bill Clemans - 58

A Main

1 - Herman James - 743
2 - Ray Bishop - 713
3 - Doug Yarbrough - 706
4 - Phil Helmuth - 696
5 - Roy Hood - 688
6 - Matt Zenovitch - 685
7 - Alicia Gilbert - 660
8 - Dwayne Roberts - 607
9 - Gary Johnson - 485
10 - Neal Stewart - 173

Overall Results

1 - Herman James - 743
2 - Ray Bishop - 713
3 - Doug Yarbrough - 706
4 - Phil Helmuth - 696
5 - Fred Hood - 690
6 - Roy Hood - 688
7 - Matt Zenovitch - 685
8 - Mike O' Donnel - 682
9 - Wayne Halabourda - 680
10 - Alicia Gilbert - 660
11 - Chris Radisich - 615
12 - Dwayne Roberts - 607
13 - Harold Rowe - 598
14 - Kenny King - 597
15 - Tom Van Horn - 495
16 - Gary Johnson - 485
17 - Neal Stewart - 173
18 - Paul "Split" Heath - 148
19 - Bill Clemans - 58

The "Hermanator" clinches both Eurosport wins this year with a nearly flawless race, as everyone else had various problems that put them in the pits at least once. Ray Bishop hung on to take 2nd after an unprepared tire and gear changes. Doug Yarbrough kept it together enough for 3rd. Phil Helmuth was fast in the beginning, but came back to settle for 4th after 2 gear changes and a tire change. Neal Stewart munched a gear in the 4th heat after the motor moved, and called it a day, and former champ Matt Z. had more then his share of problems as well.

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oldweirdherald
07-01-2003, 04:59 AM
http://www.oldweirdherald.com/owhgallery/albums/2003_flats/agp.sized.jpg
2003 AFTW Grand Champion Ray Bishop

2003 AFTW Grand Champion

Points were awarded for the following classes:
Pro Group 10, Group 12, GT-12, and 1/24 Eurosport

Name - Gp10 - Gp12 - GT-12 - 1/24 - Total

1 - Ray Bishop - 10 - 6 - 8 - 8 = 32
2 - Phil Helmuth - 6 - 8 - 0 - 5 = 19
3 - Doug Yarbrough - 4 - 3 - 4 - 6 = 17
4 - Bill Clemans - 5 - 10 - 0 - 0 = 15
5 - Matt Zenovitch - 3 - 2 - 6 - 2 = 13
6 - Herman James - 0 - 0 - 0 - 10 = 10
6 - Neal Stewart - 0 - 0 - 10 - 0 = 10
8 - Alicia Gilbert - 0 - 5 - 3 - 0 = 8
8 - Bob Everett - 8 - 0 - 0 - 0 = 8
10 - Wayne Halabourda - 2 - 0 - 5 - 0 = 7
10 - Roy Hood - 0 - 4 - 0 - 3 = 7
12 - Fred Hood - 0 - 0 - 0 - 4 = 4
13 - Jim Brown - 0 - 0 - 2 - 0 = 2
14 - Chris Radisich - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 = 1
14 - Jim Hilgartner - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 = 1
14 - Ian Douglass - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 = 1
14 - Mike O'Donell - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 = 1

(corrections made 7/6/03 - P.K.)

Congratulations to Ray Bishop our local PNW AMCA champion, who we often refer to as "that pesky Brit", Ray has been a consistant winner on this track, and is both a fast and a consistant driver.

Watch out for Ray to be a major contender at the Beaverfest and next year's USRA Nats as well, as he has been fast at Raceway USA as well!

oldracer2
07-01-2003, 10:39 AM
Great report Paul! The pics are awesome (a few fuzzy ones can be overlooked). Thanks for your tremendous effort at reporting this race and racing too. It's a big job and probably gets little thanks or reward.
PS/ you forgot to mention how well JH did driving the wrong car!

Chris Radisich
07-01-2003, 05:10 PM
To everyone who was at the Slugfest (I still prefer the old name as do so many it seems, and maybe we should start the bring back the slugfest name campaign), a big thank you to Kirk for putting the race on, and to Mark (and Andy) for some great race direction.

It was a pleasure as it was last year to come up and race with everyone, and it was great to see such a big turnout from California.

We got back to LA late last night, and Split has now gone off to Las Vegas to recover for a few days after spending the last couple of weeks working on and racing slotcars.

Chris.

Speedshop
07-01-2003, 09:45 PM
Paul,

It doesn't look like the results you posted are correct. There was a power problem on black lane in the A Main event and Alicia lost at least 25 or more laps then. After the race there was to be a correction made to take the black lane out for all the Euro racers to come up with the right result. From the lap numbers it looks like this was not done. You need to check with Kirk and make an adjustment.

Also, for everyones information Matt Zenivitch's result in the Group 12 race was caused by this black lane problem. At the start of the A Main Matt's car did not move. He checked his controller and then someone picked up his car and checked it. No one could find a problem so they put it back down on the black lane, gave it a push and it ran fine the rest of the race. I complained to the race director that there was a problem and was blown off with "it's always the racer's car or controller, never the track"! Needlass to say this is not the way to solve a problem. Matt would have finished much higher in the standings if there was a restart as I suggested.

wayne h
07-02-2003, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Speedshop


... There was a power problem on black lane in the A Main event and Alicia lost at least 25 or more laps ... You need to check with Kirk and make an adjustment.

...for everyones information Matt Zenivitch's result in the Group 12 race was caused by this black lane problem...

...I complained to the race director...



first, i have to say that this was a great event. herman schooled everyone in eurosport. every class was exciting to compete in and watch. there were many fine entries in concours. kirk, mark, and andy did a superb job as race director. it was a pleasure to renew old freindships and make new ones. even zippity was a gracious guest and good sportsman. i'm sure, 95% of the people there came away happy.

it amazes me that the speedshop's most loyal racer, ray bishop, won the overall title and all that you can do is pooh-pooh this event because you feel alecia and matt lost laps because of the track.

how is it that the "track" only affected alecia and matt? ask helmuth, neal, etc. why their wheels fell off, motors fell out, and gears got trashed.

it is no surprise that the out-of-towners out numbered the locals 2:1.

btw, alecia's total in eurosport is correct. i saw kirk adjust it directly after the race.

respectfully,

wayne h.

Speedshop
07-02-2003, 02:28 PM
I beg to differ with you Wayne. The way the problem was to be corrected was to total all the Eurosports black lane laps including the A and B heats, then divide them by the number of racers racing. I can tell this was not done by the number of laps Herman turned. He went 3 laps farther than the overall total lap record and this can not happen if he had been docked black lane laps with everyone else. With this system there is no way Kirk could just correct Alicia's black lane total.

I'm sure other racers had problems on the black lane but I could only comment on the ones I personally knew about. The two problems I wrote about were the only two I personally witnessed and knew I had the correct facts.

As to other racer's problems I only build the cars and after that they drive them. Neal broke gears because he hit cars at speed. Phil ran his tires off turning 98 and 99 laps heats. I saw no motors fall out of any Speedshop Eurosport car or any other for that matter. Every racer that finished the A main except Dewayne, Doug and Ray lost gears duing the race and this includes Herman James. At the speeds they were racing you have to protect your equipment. By the way Herman James ran a Ready to Race Speedshop Eurosport so why didn't he have all the problems the others had. Check your facts before you trash others.

Yes Ray Bishop did an great job winning the Grand Champion award. I wonder how he did it with the bad cars I build with all those motors falling out, tires cominig off and gears being trashed? Ray runs Speedshop cars exclusively and that's one of the reasons he is the top racer at South Hill Slots.

I pointed out the black lane problem to let people reading this understand that the printed results (Eurosport) were not correct. The worst thing you do, in my opinion, is print false results. Paul should have waited and made the proper corrections before printing anything.

Finally, you thought the race direction was great. If so then the Matt Z thing must not have happened and I must be a liar!

Phil H
07-02-2003, 03:46 PM
in all seriousness guys, I just got a call from herman and he told me that most of the guys up there thought I was acting like Neal was last year. I try to use subtle sarcasm to make people laugh cuz if you're not subtle enough, it's not funny. I wasn't trying to be a little $hit, when I yelled at Lee that "I wasn't paying for this one either", even though I wasn't happy, I wasn't being serious. Sorry guys, I'm not that much of a $hithead. With communication on the panel, passing, traffic, and holding a pace while being tailgated, those locals are @#$# GOOD (time for some traveling!). And with what Wayne said about the gears, I wasn't happy about that either (wtf did I hit?). okay, the 2 cents is free....
-Phil H

Gary NJ
07-02-2003, 03:46 PM
In looking at the list of the AFTW Grand Champion racers and their finishes, why isn't Herman James on that list? Looks to me like he should of been in their somewhere, no??

Keep the trash talk coming, guys. Those of us who race USRA love this stuff!!!;)

Phil H
07-02-2003, 03:57 PM
wouldn't have mattered, Alicia had the fastest car out of all of us. Me, matt, Neal, or Ray (your best PAYING drivers) could have one that race with her car, but look what she did with it. point made. You gave last years champ and grand champ JACK $HIT to defend with, he knew it and so did I. I guess you have to "even up the odds" a bit for the NON-PAYING customers.
-an unhappy speedshop customer

PS: running the tires off the car would not matter if you could pit as good as HERSHMAN:eek:

hesketh
07-02-2003, 04:04 PM
Gary, those PNW scalie guys don't need no outside agitators. Get back to your room and start gettin' ready for the Nats. Repeat after me "I need more motors , I need more motors , I need more motors........"
PK:D

wayne h
07-02-2003, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Gary NJ
In looking at the list of the AFTW Grand Champion racers and their finishes, why isn't Herman James on that list? Looks to me like he should of been in their somewhere, no??

Keep the trash talk coming, guys. Those of us who race USRA love this stuff!!!;)

the "grand championship" is based on g-10, g-12, gt-12, es24.

the hermanator only earned points in es24.

wnh

oldracer2
07-02-2003, 07:01 PM
Ok enough trash talk! It doesn't matter anymore. It's over!
It's boys, girls, men and women racing toy cars! Yes there were "World Champions" at the race and not so "World Champions". Some won and some lost. No different than any other sporting event. As for the facility and track it was first class compared to most as i have seen on the OWH or first hand. I raced 6 classes and i did not see any problem with black lane or any other lane. Yes the Euro's really chewed up the braid, maybe because the braid was a bit dirty, but other than that i saw no broblem.
My God there was even air conditioning! We all owe Gear Bear a big THANK-YOU!
I had the best time ever and this was my third year. There was less whining and b------- than ever before IMO.
I raced with some great Amateur and Pro racers. Look out for Jamy Johnson. She was really moving in GT 12 and C1 i think it was. I remember a year ago she was just starting to do well in Am LMP. Keep it up Jamy!
Then there is "Kennewick Man". I have your # Jimbo. You'd better be ready for the fall series!!
Guess you're Pro now eh??
Harold Rowe - what a great guy and very good driver. With a few more hours on the track he would be deadly. Ken King - no wonder he won the sportsmanship award. He wins a plaque and looks like he won the Lotto! BTW - he's the only guy who brought Krispy Kreme too!! Shame on the rest of you !!
Alicia - you surprised me! I honestly did not think you would survive in that field of 1/24 Euro's. Good for you. Too bad you had problems with Black lane, whatever the cause.
Herman - no need to say anything. Just a class guy and one h--- of a great racer.
Phil H - A great racer for sure. Never met you before but an awesome talent. Too bad you mis-judged the crowd. We're pretty easy going up here in the PNW and Canada. You could just act normal and survive! Sorry to hear you want to retire.
Matt - good to see you again! You'll do fine in whatever you do in life!
Neal - ok so you're 18 now. When the h--- are you going to grow?
Hope you can get back racing a bit this year.
Douy Y - It was fun working the pit for you. See it worked!!
Split - great to see ya again! Man you need to clean up your pit.
Chris R - fun time racing with you. Next year!
Roy - Steady Eddy eh? Same show every year. Good to see you again.
Brit - what can we say. An all around racer and great guy. Good luck in the fall. Keep me posted on developments and c'mon up to BC this summer and we'll smack the white ball around, eh?

Lastly thanks to my Canadian team mate and mentor, WNH. We had a blast and raced some of our best ever. Concours wasn't bad either. Next year we'll be ready for the SCREW racers!
That's the Slot Car Racers of Eastern Washington for all you evil minded readers out there!

Kirk - thanks for another great week-end of SlugFlats racing. I think i was on adrenalin for 2 days! Mixed in with some wobbly pops of course.

Mike K
07-02-2003, 08:25 PM
Harvey-

Thanks for the true and unbiased race report from one who couldn't be there. It looks like you addressed what is really important.

Congratulations on your successful weekend, too!

Mike K.

Speedshop
07-02-2003, 10:49 PM
Talked to Paul Kassens and Kirk Livernash today and now I have the final take on the black lane situation. Kirk did make an adjustment for the black lane problem but the laps given were only a guess. My sloution to the problem, and the one I was told would be used, was to add all Euro racers black lane laps together and divide then by the number of drivers. This takes the black lane out of the equation and the results would be based on the seven lanes that didn't have a problem. Another way to correct this was to just drop the black lane laps for everyone. These are the only two ways to really correct a problen like this. It's all a moot point now as no matter what system was used Alicia would have ended up in the place she was given.

Harvey, there was a problem with the black lane otherwise Kirk would not have had to make a correction.

To Phil and Neal; your cars were just as good as Alicia's, Herman's, Ray's, Doug's or any other Speedshop racer. All Speedshop cars qualified within a tenth and a half, even you Phil who used tall race tires instead of low qualifiers like most racers did. If your car was so bad how did you have a 1/2 lap lead on the field in three laps? You ran the two fastest lane totals (98 and 99 laps) in the race. I guess you must be the greatest driver in the world! You didn't see Herman, Ray , Doug or Matt making excuses for not knowing how to drive SHS's White Track with a Eurosport. All the top placing racers used the same gear you used but they drove a little slower, watching ahead and took care of their equipment. If you had taken the time to ask me how to race this race and not bitched all the time I could have told you what to do. Best thing that came out of this is now you won't have drive any more of those crappy Speedshop cars, you will only have to race against them! I hear Fast Ones is looking for a new driver

Speedshop
07-02-2003, 11:29 PM
I was very dissapointed to hear your comments on my driving. I am only 14 years old and have been driving Eurosports for less than one year. I think it shows a lack of class to trash my driving as this is the first time I have raced with USRA and ISRA World Champions. My goal for this race was to make all the A heats in the races and get the best place possible. I did this and accomplished my goal. I have won a 1/24th Eruosport race at SHS and you haven't so at least I have that one on you. I'm afraid you did not make a very positive impression on American Flat Track Worlds racers for a USRA and ISRA Champion!

Alicia Gilbert

GearBear
07-03-2003, 12:13 AM
First Black lane definitely did/does have a problem. I have to agree that it may not have been handled in the best fashion but it was handled and the race is over. Leave it be.

As to Lee not seeing "Any" Eurosport motors falling out then he forgets that mine did just that. The motor was running so hot that it melted the silver solder holding it in. Twice! Of course running such a hot wind with no choke probably had a lot to do with it. Who knows what would have happened had I used the milder motor.

I'm very happy with my performance over the weekend. I managed to win my LAST amatuer race! I made the A main in 1/24 Euro while qualifying on race tires and then drove very well for 3 1/2 heats until I couldn't keep the motor in. I got my first chance to run a 32 euro and will probably stay away from them for awhile as I find them too unpredictable. Now if I could just finish an IRL race at Slugfest maybe I could actually win one! ;) That makes 3 DNF's in a row for me for IRL :(

Herman's driving all weekend was amazing! He was truly in top form. Ray was his usual steady self quietly doing lap after lap (probably only at 95% :)) faster than anyone could imagine.

Wayne drove probably the best 24 Euro race I have ever seen him do. It's too bad he didn't change his braid halfway through the Green lane as he might have been able to win the B-Main.

Alicia, What can I say? You have gone from a young girl blasting around the track with Am LMP cars 2 years ago to one of the top racers in ANY class. You don't need to apologize to anyone for your skills on the track. Great Job!

Jamy, I guess I better watch out or you will be beating me all the time! :) Bring it on!

Bill Clemans, you guys better watch out next year as Bill is back! He may be driving with the "wrong" hand but he is faster than ever! Great job Bill!

Andy Wasserman, what a great race director! I wish he were around to do it more often!

I would like to say this was one of the most incredible races I have attended. The quality of the paint jobs was just astounding! Between Wayne, Harvey, Jim H, Jamy, and Kenny R this has got to be one of the toughest races to get a concours plack around! Most of the concours went down to having the best driver as each class had some truely remarkable paint jobs in the group. The driving displayed by all the drivers was top notch. The ability of the "out of towners" to pick up the nuances of the track was awsome indeed.

Kirk, Thanks for being such a gracious host! You proved again why we all like to race in your backyard! We had some serious fun for a long weekend and raced our hearts out. Not only do you put on a good race, you cook too! :)

See ya soon!

Dan P
07-03-2003, 12:17 AM
Did Zippity use his thumb?:p


And I want to say, take it easy guys, congratulations to all of you.

:D :D :D

You have a class act, I hope you keep it that way!

Bobhardt
07-03-2003, 09:33 AM
Sounds like everyone had a great time.:confused:

K3 Slotworks
07-03-2003, 10:00 AM
Concours wasn't bad either. Next year we'll be ready for the SCREW racers!
That's the Slot Car Racers of Eastern Washington for all you evil minded readers out there!

Hi Harvey!

The proper name is Slot Car Racers of Eastern Washington-United, (DBA, SCREW-U) :) . Concours was fun. My best regards to you and Wayne for your outstanding efforts in body painting.

Kenny

Kustom Kolors by Kenny

(K3 Slotworks);)

Aubin 3 sixteen
07-03-2003, 10:24 AM
I can't put my finger on it, but something about this thread reminds me of driving on the Long Island Expressway :D

oldweirdherald
07-06-2003, 09:57 PM
I have now posted the complete results for Pro Group 10 and Group 12, and I also corrected the AFTW Grand Champion points, which had a couple names and points ommitted previously.

Sorry for the delay, but I have been a busy Beaver back down here in Beaverville Oregon since the Slugfest / Flats.

I would like to add that it was great that several of the visiting racers took the extra time and distance to stop by here at Raceway USA to check out the site of July's upcoming Portland Beaverfest (July 25, 26, 27) and next year's 2004 USRA Div II Nats.

It was a pleasure to have Kenny King not only stop by on both the way up as well as the way back, but Kenny also was able to join us in 2 of our local weekly Sunday night 4" NASCAR races each way!

Kenny walzed in and placed 3rd on his way to the Flats, then tonight took 2nd in one heckuva close race between several top locals as well as several racers from the now closed Vancouver Speedway. Only home-boy hotshot James Loconto managed to beat Kenny, but the Vancouver guys were all right within a couple laps the entire race!

Also visiting Raceway USA were Andy Wasserman, from NY, who also was able to join us for a Wed night NASCAR race on the tri-oval, Tom Van Horn, Harold Rowe & Phil Helmuth, and Ray Bishop stopped by while down south on business as well.

Our illustrious traveler from New Zealand, Zippity (aka Ron Thornton), and his wife, apparently fell in love with Portland, as they spent a few days down here, including the 4th of July festivities, before finally making it by Raceway USA for a visit. Ithreatened Ron that he'd better make it or I'd never let him live it down! ;)

I'm sorry that some of the other travelers were unable to stop in due to time restraints, or the fact that I was in Seattle on Monday and we were closed, so I hope that those can make it by another time, especially for the upcoming Portland Beaverfest race.

I had a great time at this year's Slugfest / Flats, especially seeing many old friends, meeting friends I've gotten to know here on OWH Slot Car Talk, as well as making new friends.

I hope that many of you can make it to Portland on July 25, 26, & 27 for the Portland Beaverfest!

circuitguy70
07-08-2003, 01:39 PM
Kenny walzed in and placed 3rd on his way to the Flats, then tonight took 2nd in one heckuva close race between several top locals as well as several racers from Only home-boy hotshot James Loconto managed to beat Kenny, but the Vancouver guys were all right within a couple laps the entire race!



the now closed Vancouver Speedway.

NOT for long! :D :D :D

ian_da_bomb
07-09-2003, 02:43 PM
Wow guys. You really know how to keep it PG :D lol. I would like to express my views on this years race.

Black Lane and More
Since everyone seems to be dwelling on this issue, I figure it's worth my 2 cents. When I drove black lane, I didnt feel a thing all weekend with any car. Seems to me, Gilbert cars had a hard time this weekend. I don't think that it deserves such a huge controversy. The only people who had problems with black didn't really know what was going on with it. I think that if someone else had been having problems and could have pointed out the technicalities of the way the car acted, the issue would be more viable. Since only 2 people (or so I thought) had problems all weekend, I think that it should just be set as is - if there is an oil slick on the track during Nascar, they don't give the team who crashed because of it - time to repair and stop the race. This is not to take away from Matt and Alicias races. Both did really well at the race. Thats all there is to it.
Behavior

Comon' now boys (and girls). This is why I don't go to slot races anymore. All this stupid bickering. Its like the 98 Nats all over again with Tomato (for those who remember). Im sure to qoute many racers.... "**** happens." You live to race another day. Its weird how we always get into this conversation about taking racing too seriously. It is true that ya'll up in the northwest are more lax about a lot of things but you sure as hell take slot racing wayyyy too seriously. The only person I see who has a reason to take it seriously is Kirk and Lee - Both whom make somewhat a living off slot cars. It was soooo refreshing to see Kenny havin a blast driving the 1/24 cars. I dont care if he was in someones way. He is what we need in slot racing. And to be honest - that is why RC is where I am headed. I gave up on slots a long time ago after Norcal Imca Disbanded and the influx of new people became a halt. It is thanks to people like Chris R, Paul, and Kenny (sorry to leave others out) that slot cars and sports like this grow. Without them, we are left seeing each others same ol mugs every year. We know how much fun that is.


In closing, I think that this years slugfest was one of the better ones I have been to. The racing was much more diverse and even and I thought that overall, it was a very clean weekend of racing. I want to especially thank Chris R, his buddy Paul, Kenny, O'd, Kirk, Wayne and Mark for a nice trip up to the NW and for helping make this race memorable. But seriously boys, its just toy cars. If you get this worked up about model cars, what happens when you run out of paper towels? :confused: (FYI - they are kept in the closet above the toilet in Kirks bathroom - since nobody felt like changing it but me)

Sincerely yours, Ian Douglass :cool:

Dan P
07-09-2003, 11:45 PM
I've known and raced with Kenny for a decade. He epitomizes what this bulletin board is supposed to be about.


FUN!!!!

If you ain't havin' fun, try bowling.

Chris Radisich
07-10-2003, 12:15 PM
I finally got around to posting the lap charts from the races.

http://www.socalusra.com/2003Slugfest/index.htm

Paul, feel free to copy the pages onto your site if you want to.

And before anyone jumps down my throat about corrections, these are completely unedited results straight off the computer.

ian_da_bomb
07-10-2003, 12:44 PM
Nice job Chris. Thanks for the lap charts... Now I can know for sure how much of a comeback I made in the Gt12 race. :eek: Wait... Did I say that? Hehehe. Thanks again Chris... Dont worry.. nobody will get on you for your mistakes with Black lane. ;) lol. Late! // ian

oldweirdherald
07-14-2003, 03:25 PM
Kirk Livernash invited the local newspaper, The Puyallup Herald, to stop by at "The Flats" and they did a very nice write-up on the front page of the sports section of the local newspaper.

This sort of coverage is essential for getting new people exposed to our weird hobby, which otherwise (especially in cases like South Hill Slots, with NO drive by traffic exposure), do not get the media attention or drive by visibility of many other activities, sports, or hobbies.

Here's the link to the Puyallup Herald article online:

Puyallup Herald - The Flats (http://www.puyallup-herald.com/sports/story/3400147p-3430842c.html)


J.P. Van Rossem also wrote up an article with results on the IMCA Slotracing web site:

IMCA Slotracing - The Flats (http://www.imca-slotracing.com/IOCRS.htm#FLATS)

ian_da_bomb
07-14-2003, 05:30 PM
Both articles were well written, just pretty biased. And JP needs to give a little bit more credit to Ray Bishop lol. Ray has been kicking our butts for 5 years since I have been going to SHS. Its nothin new in my neck of the woods. I think retiring sounds good too. // Ian

oldracer2
07-15-2003, 07:54 PM
Hey Chris! I know you are a busy guy and these are great pics. at least there are captions!
Just want to point out you've got Wayne and my Bently's mixed up. Mine was the silver and blue one.

LoudCat
07-22-2003, 01:00 PM
Chris Radisich was kind enough to post the lap charts for all the weekend races at SHS on the SoCal USRA site.

http://www.socalusra.com/2003Slugfest/results0.htm

Photos too!

http://www.socalusra.com/2003Slugfest/gallery.htm

Thank you Chris!