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    You asked for it!!!

    Man - and I thought Slapshot had the exclusive on the encyclopedia answers!
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    Thumbs up See Solvent paints do make you smarter....

    DOH!


    Raymond paint, paint, paint, paint paint, paint....

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    most step by step


    Step 1 After windows, sides and or wheels are masked put flame mask
    on body.


    Step 2 Donít throw this out you can still use the left over part of
    the mask


    Step 3 Take the left over part of the mask (hereís the tricky part)
    and place over the original mask slightly offset to form the shadow.


    First color is black. Always paint from darkest to lightest,
    remember to think in reverse when painting from inside. I always use a
    gravity airbrush since less air pressure is required, and solvent based paint
    due too more control.


    Step 4 paint the black


    Top view after black was applied


    Step 5 Remove mask and now you have the shadow flames

    Check back tonight or tomorrow morning for more updates

    Roger
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    can you clarify please?

    Roger
    Great article really appreciate you taking the time and effort to share your skills and knowledge with us.
    You said
    ďI always use a gravity airbrush since less air pressure is required, and solvent based paint due too more controlĒ.
    There are 2 comments here that interests me,
    Why is less air pressure required?
    How does a solvent based paint give more control?
    Gill A
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    credit where it's due

    Gill,
    I'm just the photographer in this series.

    Rob hanson, (Mopar-Rob) is the painter.
    Rob will surely post why he prefers what types of paints, and answer any other questions you will have.


    Now back to the step by step

    Step 6 Paint the main slot car body color, blue in this case. In
    the background is the Chicagoland air compressor. I turned the pressure
    down to 25 psi out of the compressor and a have a diaphragm regulator at
    the end of the hose regulating it down to 15 psi or less depending on
    the effect. ( note always use a respirator I usually use a 3M #7192 at
    home or SATA fresh air system when I was in the Auto Paint business)


    Step 7 Remove the original flame mask. Now you have the shadow
    flames and the main color painted. (note look at the nice striping job one
    the Swissís King track, I wonder who striped it?)


    Step 8 Remove the outline from around the numbers


    Step 9 Test spray pattern on an old shipping box from KOFORD. This
    is an important step that should have been around step #4. This is why
    solvent based paint is important. I turned pressure down and moved
    airbrush closer the object. I used a slow temperature thinner (warm
    weather) so the paint wouldnít dry to fast. I canít do this with water based
    paints, maybe someone better than I can?


    Text by rob hanson.

    More pictures tomorrow.

    Roger
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    MidAmerica Slot Car Raceway LLC
    109 1/2 West Monroe st.
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    630-484-8574

    Mid America Raceway Naperville
    1223 E Ogden ave
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    Re: can you clarify please?

    Originally posted by Gill A
    Roger

    ďI always use a gravity airbrush since less air pressure is required, and solvent based paint due too more controlĒ.
    There are 2 comments here that interests me,

    Why is less air pressure required?

    Gill A
    NZ
    Gill:

    Siphon or bottle airbrushís work on the Bernoulli effect (hope I spelled correctly). Basically air rushing by a tube will create a vacuum and suck the liquid up. The amount air is dependent on the viscosity of the liquid.

    Gravity guns use air and gravity (we all know what that is) If you didnít have any air into the tool and pulled the trigger paint will still come out of the fluid tip. You can use the slightest pressure to get the paint to spray.

    Rob


    PS I donít know if that answered your question or not. I didnít want OWH mom to say I made another encyclopedia answer again.
    Last edited by Mopar_rob; 07-24-2005 at 06:52 AM.
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    Rob,

    Thanks for all the ideas, cool thread!

    Question for you, where do you buy the numbers with the peel out outline? I use to outline them with a parma pen but it doesn't look as good.

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    More info for your education

    http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionar...Venturi+effect



    I have a friend who has a vinyl cutter, do them for me. You should be able to get them done at any sign shop for a reasonable amount of money. As I stated earlier most of my personal paint jobs are a single color done with a rattle can. I usually just write the numbers with a marker. I will have Roger post a picture of one of my cars.
    If you think your having a bad day, try missing one.

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    and yet more


    Step 10 Outline the flames, in this case I used orange.



    Flames and numbers are outlined


    Another top view photo the flames are outlined.

    roger
    Roger Schmitt





    MidAmerica Slot Car Raceway LLC
    109 1/2 West Monroe st.
    Bloomington, IL 61701

    630-484-8574

    Mid America Raceway Naperville
    1223 E Ogden ave
    Suite 139
    Naperville, Il 60563

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    last few


    Step 11 Paint the flame color, in this case yellow


    Top view after the flames. Were almost done just need to finish the numbers.


    Step 12 Spray silver on the numbers


    Step 13 Peel of mask and paint the outline in blue on the #1 in the flames
    Roger Schmitt





    MidAmerica Slot Car Raceway LLC
    109 1/2 West Monroe st.
    Bloomington, IL 61701

    630-484-8574

    Mid America Raceway Naperville
    1223 E Ogden ave
    Suite 139
    Naperville, Il 60563

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    Question...

    In step #11. How does the yellow paint stay in the gun ?
    Ron

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    Magic

    it's magic ron,

    Anyways,
    Here is the finished product. after pealing off the protective top cover coat the body looks nice.


    Step 14 Peel off window and side masks. Now weíre done painting.
    Thank you to Ron Herrera for letting
    someone you donít know paint one your wing bodies.
    Roger Schmitt





    MidAmerica Slot Car Raceway LLC
    109 1/2 West Monroe st.
    Bloomington, IL 61701

    630-484-8574

    Mid America Raceway Naperville
    1223 E Ogden ave
    Suite 139
    Naperville, Il 60563

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    Optical illusion

    Originally posted by multiracer
    In step #11. How does the yellow paint stay in the gun ?
    Ron



    The airbrush is probably not as tilted as it looks in the photo. Even if it was there wasnít much paint in the cup. Remember the gravity gun thing again. You use all the paint in the cup. You donít need to put the paint past the pickup tube like in a siphon gun. Gravity airbrushes are like a Difalco vs. a resistor controller. The resistor is great and you donít see a need to buy a Difalco, until you try one. Then you canít live without it. I was using an Iwata airbrush which make one of the best, if not the best. I also have a Sparmax with a smaller needle size to make even smaller lines.
    If you think your having a bad day, try missing one.

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    Thanks guys

    Nice illustration for the OWH readers.
    Ron

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    Thanks

    Roger and Rob, People don't realize all the time and work it takes to paint good body's. I am sure looking forward to seeing the body in person, It sure looks good in the pictures hopefully Ill get it in the mail today. There was a thread a few months back of racers looking for guys that paint. There you go Mopar Rob in action, I am looking forward to the scheme you guys are going to make for me. Thanks again guys.

    Ron
    PS Bill Taylor is also doing some good paint work at Buena Park.

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