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View Poll Results: TIME TO CHANGE USRA SCALE NATIONALS?

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  • Ron's Proposal as Quoted

    16 24.62%
  • Ron's Proposal with some changes

    47 72.31%
  • Stay with the current program

    2 3.08%
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Thread: Usra Scale Division - Time For Change?

  1. #31
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    Without wishing to sink the ship before it leaves the dock, let everyone who has been involved in previous efforts to clean up (which failed) bear in mind the difficulties to be surmounted.

    And to those who might get a steering committee together... KEEP IT SMALL (as in single-digit territory) or you'll end up with endless yakking and no action.
    Peter N. Varlan

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    Death to GTP.

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    I am not racing GTP this year only because I do not support the existence of the S16C armature. Group 11 is 30 gauge wire...wasp/contender - period.

    The S16C belongs with the grp 20 arm class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramcatlarry
    I am not racing GTP this year only because I do not support the existence of the S16C armature. Group 11 is 30 gauge wire...wasp/contender - period. The S16C belongs with the grp 20 arm class.
    I agree wholeheartedly.
    Peter N. Varlan

  5. #35
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    Observe

    Purely as an observational exercise, let's keep an eye on the car counts at the Div II Nats. It should provide some input to this discussion.
    Peter N. Varlan

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    4 days down and 90 entries so far for 5 classes. All so far is stamped steel chassis classes and Indy car class using the spring steel chassis.
    "When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow"

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    IMO.....Dismal (so far)

    Mid-America is a great raceway and Roger and company are doing a fine job hosting the event. I was only present for Sunday and Monday. It felt like just another race to me with exception of the A Expert LMP race.

    It may be the economy, but I think that the Group classes need to be split off from the Euro classes. I know more people showed up today and there are more coming so it will make for a good turnout overall.

    Just my observation/opinion, take it for what it's worth (not much).

    Good luck to all the participants.

    Terry
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    Dismal, indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by TA Watson
    Mid-America is a great raceway and Roger and company are doing a fine job hosting the event. I was only present for Sunday and Monday. It felt like just another race to me with exception of the A Expert LMP race.
    Yes, the 7 classes that are listed here on OWH average 11 cars.
    Peter N. Varlan

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    The rest of the week (after a day off ??) will be an ISRA race.
    " A little less whining and a little more driving should cure the problem "
    Ronald R. Van Wagnen

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    It's interesting that the amateur classes all had lousy turnouts and the Expert classes had the better turnout, not great but respectable. Not surprising but interesting. Experts are always more likely to travel because they are more hard core, maybe what we are seeing is the economic impact. Amateurs not traveling because their concerns about financial matters is easily overriding their need to participate at a national level. Where in a number of situations the Expert/Pro has alignment between his need to participate and his economic circumstances. It will be interesting to see if this is repeated at the wing nats.
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    It will be interesting to see if this is repeated at the wing nats.

    It will be, it started last year in TX.
    " A little less whining and a little more driving should cure the problem "
    Ronald R. Van Wagnen

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    I think you're right, although I bet that the wing nats turn out easily beats the scale nats in the amateur classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hesketh
    I think you're right, although I bet that the wing nats turn out easily beats the scale nats in the amateur classes.
    The way I count it..... 13 races to be run at the Wing nats..NOT counting the warm up Gr 7 race.

    Get an average of 15 entries or more per race and the wing nats will be bigger than the scale nats.
    "When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow"

  14. #44
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    It may just be time scale back to a core set of classes. Why do we run so many in the first place. I have rarely run on a National level because of funding or lack of the select equipment. If fewer classes ar erun then the week gets shorter. I remember the wing Nats being run in a weekend. 4 classes.
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    I'll keep saying it: slot racing will be more successful when it realizes that people have budgets of money and time that they can devote to their leisure time activities.

    If the racing landscape is configured to require lots of money and/or lots of time (on and off the track), participation will suffer for it. You don't have to take my word for it... just look at where we are with 1/24 slot racing.

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