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    New Hawk Motor with Koford X-12 arm

    New Hawk Motor with Koford X-12 arm



    IN stock and ready to ship $50.12

    click here
    http://www.shop.slotcar1.com/Hawk-Mo...2-arm-M647.htm
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    What is the timing?
    Phil Matthews

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    looks like 30 degree or so
    Roger Schmitt





    MidAmerica Slot Car Raceway LLC
    109 1/2 West Monroe st.
    Bloomington, IL 61701

    630-484-8574

    Mid America Raceway Naperville
    1223 E Ogden ave
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    Naperville, Il 60563

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    I believe the website states 38 degrees for the replacement arms..... not sure if this is the same, but would assume so.

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    Looks nice, and for 50 bucks what will it do that a contender won't do or a falcon or hawk 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdC View Post
    Looks nice, and for 50 bucks what will it do that a contender won't do or a falcon or hawk 7?
    Weight is several grams less. Over 12 grams less than C drag can motors. I don't road race so don't know what the C road race weights are.

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    less than a falcon or hawk 7?

    That's got my interest now!!

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    I'm thinking that something like this would be killer for open 12 and the like. If only it were legal, maybe it should be.
    Improving performance one hazardous material at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDee View Post
    I'm thinking that something like this would be killer for open 12 and the like. If only it were legal, maybe it should be.
    That`s what I asked on a thread yesterday.
    The new ProSlot Euro Motors (BIG DOG etc.) Should be legal in USRA Division2, too.
    I would like to see how they would do against Super 16D and Contenders.
    Last edited by La Cucaracha; 02-09-2011 at 01:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by La Cucaracha View Post
    That`s what I asked on a thread yesterday.
    The new ProSlot Euro Motors (BIG DOG etc.) Should be legal in USRA Division2, too.
    I would like to see how they would do against Super 16D and Contenders.
    I have some experience with Big Dogs in a B Production style car, they ran hot and were not as fast on the King, but handled well on the flat track. For flat tracking, with some development, they probably could be competitive, especially on a shorter and tighter track where brute power is not needed. Again these motor developments need to be added to rule packages, things have been the same for too long, new products need to be included so the tracks can sell some new stuff and ,maybe, make a little, for a change.
    Improving performance one hazardous material at a time.

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    I'd love to see them legal in Retro Can Am. Would do away with all the concerns about motors and would overpower the cars to a point where driving would be showcased.
    There are "Racers" and there are "Talkers".....which one are you?

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    How fast are they compared to a normal group 12 motor?
    Chase Walker

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    I would think they should be as fast as a regular group 12 just wont have the breaks.
    Give me my glue bottle!!!!!!!!!![B]

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    I dont know Mike, these things have really strong magnets. The stock mags gauss out at around 800 , and if you go with the Neos they gauss at 900 to 950. I tested them the other day. I built one for a racer last week using a Proslot 38deg arm, BBs in both can and endbell, and Neos. The guy called me yesterday and told me he couldn't get over how fast it ran on the king track. I,m not even sure what he mounted it in lol.

    Vic
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickyvic3 View Post
    I dont know Mike, these things have really strong magnets. The stock mags gauss out at around 800 , and if you go with the Neos they gauss at 900 to 950. I tested them the other day. I built one for a racer last week using a Proslot 38deg arm, BBs in both can and endbell, and Neos. The guy called me yesterday and told me he couldn't get over how fast it ran on the king track. I,m not even sure what he mounted it in lol.

    Vic
    Vic, the problem i see is that the magnets being so thin that in a box stock car where the motor gets hot they loose a lot more gauss than a regular c-can motor I've used the p/s x12 mini motor in my retro pro cars and at the end of the race the magnets have lost almost 40% of their strength so id say in wing racing they may be good for a heat or two. Just my thoughts havent tried it yet but not saying I won't
    Give me my glue bottle!!!!!!!!!![B]

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