Illinois Retro Racing League question and answers

**Scale Series** · 07-02-2011, 09:37 AM

Any more news on that proposed Chicago Retro League involving monthly races between Chicagoland, Mid-America and Lake Barrington (I think)? Sounded like a GREAT idea to get Retro racing going again in Chicago.

If there's room for mid-pack racers, I'd like to participate in this. My brother, Tom, probably can't come all the way from WI (could be wrong) but this does sound like a fine idea.

Larry / Jim

I didn't want to hijack Swiss's race results thread so I started a new one

Right now it's on holding pattern.

Bill Worden who usually did the schedule and the adminstative work in the old Scale Racing Series was going to do the same for this series. As in the past I was going to do tech.

In the past and as planned for this series it was to be October - March with each raceway having 2 races for the total of the 6 months. We planned on doing the first race at Swiss's as a Sano warmup

Anyway, Bill tells me when he approached the 3 raceways for their input about hosting a race one didn't want to participate.

Normally, Bill would finalize the schedule in August so we'll try again.

Sadly, this sort of stuff only hurts the racers.

BTW:

Jim you more than welcome. Guys like you, Bill and I'll include myself in the mix is what we envisioned the series for. Guys who want to have fun racing retro cars at the 3 local tracks who don't think it's the Nat's.

If there are any updates I'll keep everyone informed

**larrymatt** · 07-02-2011, 09:57 AM

Rob

Sorry to hear that plans for the Retro League have hit a snag...

I would think that all three tracks would jump at the opportunity to participate and help grow retro racing in the Chicago region.

Pretty 'small minded' thinking on the part of the track that chose not to participate. Sounded like a win-win situation for EVERYONE.

You're right, stuff like this really hurts the racers.

Perhaps the racers should express their opinion by voting with their dollars and support the two tracks who want to participate in the League?

Good luck going forward with the plan. Perhaps three races at two tracks?

LM

**Roger Schmitt** · 07-02-2011, 10:20 AM

A retro series sounds good to me, Bring it on.

I'm sure People who race at Mid-America will support any series that is started, and even travel to other tracks.

Keep us informed,

roger

**swiss** · 07-02-2011, 10:27 AM

I got off the phone about a 1/2 hr. ago with Bill Worden and he agreed to pass the Retro series on to me to run.

Tentatively there will be a 6 race series amongst the 3 tracks(2 races each) mentioned and will start up in September
with racing scheduled on Sundays like the old Falcon Series.

**webbmeister25d** · 07-02-2011, 11:23 AM

" Guys who want to have fun racing retro cars at the 3 local tracks who don't think it's the Nat's."

It's not the Nats? ;-)

It's great that all three tracks are going to participate. No ... it is GREAT!

Jim

**larrymatt** · 07-02-2011, 03:22 PM

That is GREAT news for Chicago/Illinois retro racers...

Congrats to Bill and Rob for originating the League concept.

Still have to wonder 'why' one of the three original tracks that were approached refused to participate?

Some folks just don't play well with others...

LM

**Roger Schmitt** · 07-02-2011, 03:41 PM

Larry,

we've been on board since day one.

you will have to ask John or Mike why they didn't want to participate.

roger

**swiss** · 07-02-2011, 03:42 PM

Larry,
Since you can't seem to leave this alone, I originally told Bill Worden I would be happy to participate but had
concerns about Rob's involvement.

One my locals just gave me permission to post his E-Mail to me from May 19th, when talk of a series got brought up
in my Slotblog thread about my monthly house retro races:

What a pain in the ***! If he is involved in “running” a series in the future no one will come.
I could not take his constant sniping! I like the once a month on Saturdays. .

**Scale Series** · 07-02-2011, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by swiss

Larry,
Since you can't seem to leave this alone, I originally told Bill Worden I would be happy to participate but had
concerns about Rob's involvement.

One my locals just gave me permission to post his E-Mail to me from May 19th, when talk of a series got brought up
in my Slotblog thread about my monthly house retro races:

What a pain in the ***! If he is involved in “running” a series in the future no one will come.
I could not take his constant sniping! I like the once a month on Saturdays. .

Basically, Bill and I took the bull by the horns because no one else has. Others including yourself have had the opportunity since you held the first Sano in 2007. Anyway I think it's great that you now want to take this over. I still get a retro series in Chicago that goes to ALL 3 facilities and don't have to make the personal commitment to attend ALL the races like I would have if I was doing tech. Win / Win situation for me.

In regard to your quote:

Well, if no one had shown up to the series because of me than you could have said I told you so. Instead you decided you wanted to run it. As I said before, I sincerly think that's great.

I look forward to your schedule and hope it's out soon now that everyone is on board with a retro series. I also look forward to seeing you at ALL the races since your now the series director.

**larrymatt** · 07-02-2011, 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=swiss;272127]Larry,
Since you can't seem to leave this alone, I originally told Bill Worden I would be happy to participate but had
concerns about Rob's involvement.

One my locals just gave me permission to post his E-Mail to me from May 19th, when talk of a series got brought up
in my Slotblog thread about my monthly house retro races:

Mike

So... you were the the track who originally 'refused' to participate in the League?

But, now you are OK with the concept, since you have 'control' of the series, instead of Bill and Rob?

Interesting...

And, you based your decision on the opinion of one racer's e-mail?

Even more interesting...

But, the good news is that the racers finally have a retro series to compete in, irregardless of 'who' is running the program.

Thank you for being candid.

All of my questions have been answered.

LM

**brassrodman** · 07-03-2011, 03:35 AM

Lake Barrington Speedway is and always has been on board for this series. Lets race! John Austin

**MantaRay** · 07-03-2011, 11:49 AM

Hey Larry, I'm glad all of your questions have been answered.............I'm hoping your next post about this subject is offering congratulations to the winners of the First Race of the series.

**larrymatt** · 07-03-2011, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by MantaRay

Hey Larry, I'm glad all of your questions have been answered.............I'm hoping your next post about this subject is offering congratulations to the winners of the First Race of the series.

Ray

Yep...

Roger (Mid-America) and John (Lake Barrington) MORE than answered my question as to which track 'originally' chose not to participate in the League.

Rest assured that I will be the first to congratulate the first League winners.

LM

**webbmeister25d** · 07-03-2011, 06:04 PM

Ugh. This whole thing started with someone's really good idea. Will it continue through to fruition before the unhappiness deep-sixes it? I hope so! Honestly, through the magic of our keyboards, we could collectively turn the notion of a happy ending to a date with Cheryl Cole into a bad idea. Any chance of getting this back on track or closing it and starting again?

Jim

**oldweirdherald** · 07-03-2011, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by webbmeister25d

Ugh. This whole thing started with someone's really good idea. Will it continue through to fruition before the unhappiness deep-sixes it? I hope so! Honestly, through the magic of our keyboards, we could collectively turn the notion of a happy ending to a date with Cheryl Cole into a bad idea. Any chance of getting this back on track or closing it and starting again?

Jim

I sure hope so! But at least not until I Google Cheryl Cole!