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Thread: ISRA USA rule confusion.

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    ISRA USA rule confusion.

    In the rules for the different regions it is listed that a 16D arm can have a stack length of .490.

    But in the Champion ship rule book you have to have a stack of .600 like a normal 16D.

    What is this rule for the regions or is it just a typo.


    "Isra Graden State Rules"

    "
    Motor:
    Any D-Can based motor with any single piece, full high D-Can magnet.
    Any commercially available, balanced or unbalanced, 16-D armature. (Super 16-D arms are specifically
    illegal).
    May interchange manufacturer parts
    May notch can and/or magnet for axle clearance.
    May drill 1 small hole per side to ease magnet installation.
    No ball bearings in motor allowed; must use bushings.
    Minimum stack length .490.
    No shunt wire or spring insulation may be used"



    Thanks
    Mike
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    Mike ,
    I can not answer for Garden State ISRA/USA , but I believe it is a typo . I attended all but one of there races last season and there was no talk of anyone running short stack arms.
    Lou

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    It is also in the rules for the NE region as well.
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    Mike,
    Now I am confused. The ISRA/USA NE series does not run Group 10 on a monthly basis. I have published Group 10 rules for the National rule book ( used at the NE championship race and Scale Championships) but the stack lenght was always .600. In B-Production there is Motor Option 2 that allows the use of a S16D with a min. stk lenght of .490.
    I will have the 2011- 2012 National rule book ready in the next few days, will you proof read it before I ask Casey to post them.
    Lou

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    Thanks for looking into it for me.

    Mike
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    Mike
    Your right it does read .490 but its a misprint I didn't catch it either and I would of be the 1 to build it if I saw it but didn't we all use the .600 stack length sure Jerry will revise garden state rule to reflect proper size.
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    It was a typo in the Garden State rules. Everyone used full length arms at all of our series races. The rulebook for the championship race had the correct length. I will update before I post a revised rulebook in the next week or so.
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    Are we still going to be able to run bearings on the can side this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by madtes6i View Post
    Are we still going to be able to run bearings on the can side this year?
    Yes you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Pirro View Post
    Mike,
    Now I am confused. The ISRA/USA NE series does not run Group 10 on a monthly basis. I have published Group 10 rules for the National rule book ( used at the NE championship race and Scale Championships) but the stack lenght was always .600. In B-Production there is Motor Option 2 that allows the use of a S16D with a min. stk lenght of .490.
    I will have the 2011- 2012 National rule book ready in the next few days, will you proof read it before I ask Casey to post them.
    Lou
    Just let me know when you want me to post the new rulebook. You can also just email it to me when you want me to post it at: webmaster@theisrausa.com
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    so can you or can't you use ball bearings in the can of a group 10 16d motor is the question.

    why do you have rules and then change them and not update the rule postings for everyone to read before coming to the track or race?

    How hard is it?

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    Originally Posted by madtes6i
    Are we still going to be able to run bearings on the can side this year?
    Yes you can.


    BACK UP A FEW POST AND YOU WILL GET YOUR ANSWER....

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdC View Post
    so can you or can't you use ball bearings in the can of a group 10 16d motor is the question.

    why do you have rules and then change them and not update the rule postings for everyone to read before coming to the track or race?

    How hard is it?
    You can use a bearing in the can end of a group 10 motor.

    The ball bearing in the can end of the motor is a new rule for Garden State ISRA this year. Note that this will match the rules that were used for the ISRA Championship race last week. And, please take note, that whatever is in the rulebook are the rules. That point was proven at the Championship Race in Philly where an oversight made ballbearings in the axle for JRL illegal when they generally are legal, but we ran the race under the PUBLISHED rules specific for that race.

    As I posted above, a rulebook for the 2011-2012 Garden State ISRA season will be available in a week or so.

    Patience. The updated rulebooks have not been posted yet, but will be in the near future.
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    Jerzey...
    smart answer.
    Now answer this one...
    So why don't you fix your rule book?

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    Jerry...
    I know it's difficult to keep the rules current and as such updating them every week or for every race can lead to much confusion and that will lead to loss of interest by racers.
    Maybe a cutoff date of 30 days prior will be the only changes allowed to the published rules?

    I was on the ISRA site and was looking at the photos of the group 10 cars and it shows two body styles, an LMP and a GTP and both look like high downforce types. I was under the impression that the body styles for Group 10 were more of the scale type bodies.

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