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Thread: New Falcon 7 motor

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    New Falcon 7 motor

    The new batch of Falcon 7 motors currently in the works will land sometimes in March in the USA.

    The motor will feature some changes to make it even more reliable and especially longer lasting. These changes will apparently involve several minor improvements that will make it easier to use for most racers:

    -A shorter shaft on the pinion side, meaning that it will no longer be necessary to cut the shaft for either sidewinder or inline use before fitting the pinion.

    -A longer shaft on the endbell side to allow for use of a commutator cooler.

    -Brushes will get a "proper" orientation, rotating 90-degree from their current position, meaning less break-in time and better comm track from the beginning of use, and especially, much longer life in the process.

    We at Topline Inc. have never quite understood why all those Chinese motors of "FK" basic design from virtually all brands have had their brushes wrongly oriented all that time! Hard to fathom but likely due to the copycat ways of the Chinese... Well, at last this will be corrected, and motor life should increase dramatically as this is being implemented.



    The white lines were added on the pictures to reflect the actual track of the brush. This improvement required a new brush holder, that will be actually stronger and should provide a more consistent pressure.



    A new commutator cooler will also be made available for fitment on the longer shaft, to be applied with the heat of a soldering iron and slipped hot onto the shaft.

    Despite the higher cost due to huge increases in the cost of copper, magnet material and steel in China, t he retail price will remain the same at $11.95.

    Topline Inc. expects the break-in period of the new motor to be reduced dramatically and some performance improvement since the brush will track on the commutator in a much more logical fashion, avoiding the "dual groove" wear pattern of virtually all the currently produced "FK" sized motors.

    Topline Inc. apologizes to its customers for the delay in manufacturing this improved motor and will do its utmost to supply its distributors as quickly as possible as the shipment from China is received.
    Last edited by Topline Inc.; 01-29-2013 at 05:55 PM.

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    Retail price??

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    $11.95...With 'normal' brushes and stronger brush holders. Longer comm side shaft with shorter can side shaft

    PHIL I.

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    What about the Brush compound? Currently they seem to be too soft and wear out very quickly then no brakes and lack of preformance follows. Harder brush should make it better all around. If this is a copy of the Evil motor they are not much better than the current F7.

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    How many others noted that the real difference between the "Old" and the "New" photos was the judicious use of Photoshop?

    That says to me that there have been no tests done with the new brush orientation, and that the market will be supplied with an untested product.

    I hope that we do not have to find out with our money why the brushes were always oriented the other way ever since Mabuchi made these motors in Japan.

    Now if the new brush plates are thicker/stronger and therefore apply more pressure to the brushes, THAT might result in some performance improvements, especially a little more brakes as the motor gets older. Hopefully that's the case.
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    Well considering the source, what do you expect?
    Oh well the old photo shop editing.



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    Interesting the person that posted it's his/she first post?
    Looking at the other place it was a he?


    Nesta
    In this bright future you can't forget your past.
    BMW (Bob Marley and the Wailers)
    United we stand and divided we fall, the Legends are complete.
    I'm racing the best here at BP but Father time is much better then all of us united.
    Not a snob in this hobby, after all it will be gone, if we keep on going like we do, and I have nothing to prove so I keep on posting because I have nothing to gain.
    It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future at OWH.

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    Those sound like good changes for the soon to arrive Falcon type motor. Until the new motors arrive the current Falcon 7 motors are still a good motor for low buck racing.
    Last edited by PCHPartsExpress; 03-10-2013 at 11:59 AM.

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    The new Falcon 7 motors are not yet for sale. But there are still current Falcon 7 motors out there to purchase.

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    Any updates regarding a supply date?
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    I'm thinking its a hoax! Its been a while.
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    Maybe it will come out jointly with the "new" Kelly Flexi Chassis!! LOL!


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    Maybe they are on a Falcon powered boat from CHINA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Maybe they are on a Falcon powered boat from CHINA.
    Maybe they're coming in a rowboat.
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    if they were shipped from Cuba, they would have been here months ago, in an old VW bug and a couple oars!!
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