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Thread: which Controllers are banned?

  1. #31
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    Ok, I'll bite...

    What are you guys racing? And where is this raceway? Name of the raceway?
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    Also as an aside, from its inception in the old TRRS up until 2014, the Ohio Challenge Cup's GT1 category used to specify that as it was an "entry level" class it was to be raced only with resistor type controllers without any adjustments. In 2014 the sanctioning body realized that instead of encouraging fair competition among novice racers it was instead forcing its core base of racers to carry around a spare controller just for GT1.

    Cost controls rarely control costs.

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    Question asked in post #1
    "Heard that some organizations are banning controllers because they hold the voltage or modify the track voltage.

    What controllers are they?"


    Why did you ask this question? If you dismiss all the answers given for your ever evolving subject, why bother ?


    I have to agree with Swiss here. Giant waste of time. Don't be surprised if the next time you ask a question or ask for advice nobody answers.

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    Interesting...... So what you are saying is we do not have the right to ban certain equipment from the racing programs?
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    You, or your raceway owner, have every right to ban whatever you/he would like.

    Just don't waste people times asking questions, when you are going to AUTOMATICALLY dismiss the answers, they spent their time, posting, because those answers don't jibe with your agenda.

    Those $900-$1,000 controllers could massage your shoulders, between heats, and promote hair growth, and your response would still be "But what justifies the $1,000 price?"

    Regardless of what they do, and if the bang for your buck, is worth it, they are way over the $350 price point your raceway has set as a limit, and they certainly aren't available through Eagle or ERI.

    BTW, which raceway or raceways do you race at?
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    Mike, he is a troll. Plain and Simple....
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    Best to let him get the last word in.....and ignore him.
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    Interesting, the responders are not interested in a discussion.

    So because you don't like my questions, you call me a troll. Hahahahaha

    And Mister Swiss, you don't like the question because it does not fit with your agenda as well?

    Like I mentioned, no issue with these controllers being used in "higher classes".....

    So get a life........
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    The agenda, very simply, is to prevent the uninformed from spreading disinformation about higher end controllers.

    You asked what advantages do higher end controllers offer and focused upon the hearsay of an ISRA ban regarding adding voltage. This was explained to have been false. Then the advantages of higher end controllers were explained, and your choice was to plunge headlong into "We don't need them! Shop makes no money off them! Ban them!" regardless of what you were being told by shop owners and sanctioning body members.

    If you consider some of these features to be unfair from a competition standpoint, then ban those features such as MOSFET braking, traction control, or programmable networks. If you assign a nebulous "cost cap" you'll run into an unenforceable rule as proliferation means that the mass-producers (such as they are) like Third Eye, Difalco, and Ruddock WILL eventually find a way to get those features into a controller under your cost cap, meaning the same situation of a must-have controller for some and an expensive paperweight for others.

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    Oh you read that response I see....

    Again, What and where do you race?

    This may be "Crazy Moron", did someone say his name three times?
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    Then you are not comfortable with a cost limit or RULE on the cost of a chassis or motor or tires?

    Hmmmmm

    In the lower classes like a womp, flexi or retro class that uses a Hawk 7 or Falcon motor, we keep the cost of the parts down to create more customers and racers.

    mostly all groups or raceways use a cost basis as part of the RULES for competition. Those rules include a PRICE MAXIMUM for certain classes in regards to setups, armatures, chassis and so forth.

    Most organizations and raceways prefer that you buy the stuff from the raceway via a certified distributor like Eagle or REH ........

    So what is the issue with setting price limit on controllers for the LOWER classes like Flexi, comps, FCRS, retro or vintage.....????
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    Just to stir the pot......... Why are you worried about $900 controllers? It seems your worried about any controller over $351 as you have chosen to draw the line in the sand there. Next year does the amount account for inflation of say 5%? $350 x .05 = $17.50 or $367.50 controllers?
    There are a whole host of other great controllers available between the $350 & $900 you mention
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckdaboer View Post
    Interesting...... So what you are saying is we do not have the right to ban certain equipment from the racing programs?
    Where did you get that from??????

    You asked a question, got many accurate honest answers, then shifted the discussion, dismissed all responses, then told everybody you were going to do what you want anyway.

    So other than trolling, what exactly is your point here????

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    OWH Ops should do the same thing as they have over on Slotblog - lock this post!!

    Zippity

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    Interesting again, when some people don't like the question or even question the reasoning behind things. Certain people get all geeked up.

    Why is that?

    The questions were about controllers that cost triple the amount of the state of the art DiFalco and others. And sorry to tell ya guys, limiting usage of certain equipment is part of racing.

    You don't allow an X-12 motor to run against the Hawk 7s, do you?

    So stop taking it personal guys....

    It is a hobby...... it should be fun
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