2004 Scale Nat's at Raceway USA

[Jawn]

Raceway USA is happy to announce that we now created a special section on our web site for information about the 2004 Scale Division Nat's, to be held here on April 13-18, 2004.
Find it here: http://www.racewayusa.com/nats

Preliminary schedule information is there, as well as links to nearby lodging resources (for those that like to book early). Much more information to follow, so check back often.

[wayne h]

finally!! thanks for the info jawn. i hope there will be copius updates as i am a glutten for info.

will all races be on the twister?

what voltage will be used? power supplies or batteries?

warm up schedule?

wayne h.

[InspMoose]

[Jawn]

Originally posted by wayne h
finally!! thanks for the info jawn. i hope there will be copius updates as i am a glutten for info.

will all races be on the twister?

what voltage will be used? power supplies or batteries?

warm up schedule?

wayne h.

GT-12, C12e, 1/32 and 1/24 Euro will all be on the yellow "Twister" road course. Gp-10 NASCAR and GTP will be on the Hillclimb, 4.5" NASCAR on the Tri-Oval. GT1 is a bit up in the air right now. We're thinking of GT1 on the Twister, but nothing is set in stone as of yet.

Power will most likely be provided via a power supply. Specs will have to wait until I can talk to the builder.

Warm up number one is scheduled for January 31 and Feb 1, 2004. Number Two will be February 14-15 and Number Three will be March 13-14. No decisions have been made on which classes will run which days yet. Watch for it.

[Zippity]

A beautiful track

[Speedshop]

Jawn,

If you plan to race one of the usual bank track classes on the flat track it would be best to race GTP on the Twister. GT1s have the limited LMP bodies and would not handle as well on the flat track. Most racers would probably like to see both of these classes on the Hillclimb.

[John Emmons]

For what it's worth, I agree with Lee. I'd much rather run a GT1 on a Hillclimb and a GTP on the Twister.

Keep the updates coming John. You're doing great.

John Emmons

[Jawn]

Originally posted by John Emmons
For what it's worth, I agree with Lee. I'd much rather run a GT1 on a Hillclimb and a GTP on the Twister.

Okay, that's two votes for GTP on the twister. I'm poling a few of the PNWAMCA racers for their thoughts as well.

My attraction to running GT1 on the twister was precisely because of the lower down-force bodies and the premium that would place on driver skill and chassis setup. Just a sadistic streak in me, I guess...

[oldweirdherald]

My feeling was that the GT1's are basically equivallant to the PNW AMCA Group 10 cars, only with the LMP bodies, and front wheels. It seems like a logical break to me between the flat track racing and the banked track cars, even with the lower downforce LMP/GT1 bodies. It should be a driver's class, and is an easy transition for the AMCA racers as well.

Another consideration wa that the USRA rules allow the host's option to allow .032" clearance for this class, when run on the flat track. I don't believe this option was available for the GTP class.

The GTP class, which has the option of running the Super 16-C motors, seems to me more appropriate for the high-speed Hill-Climb.

[Jawn]

The GTP classes (expert and amateur) will be contested on the Twister road course.
Also, the schedule has been set for the entire event. I will post updates to the Raceway USA web site later today.

[John Emmons]

Thanks John. Keep it up.

Will the warm up race schedule be posted today as well?

Got any spare floor space...?...;^)

John Emmons

[LoudCat]

Originally posted by oldweirdherald
Another consideration wa that the USRA rules allow the host's option to allow .032" clearance for this class, when run on the flat track. I don't believe this option was available for the GTP class.

The origional proposal (which I made) was only for GT1. However, at the suggestion of some of the other members it was expanded so the final vote was for GTP and GT1.

The IMCA Group 10 is closest to USRA GTP for the amateur racers. They are going to get a handout motor. I expect GTP and GT12 will get the largest amateur turnouts. For the experts, it should be interesting to see what choice of motor turns out to be best in GTP.

[wayne h]

Originally posted by LoudCat

The IMCA Group 10 is closest to USRA GTP for the amateur racers. They are going to get a handout motor. I expect GTP and GT12 will get the largest amateur turnouts.

what kind of motors will be used for each of the amateur classes?

who will supply the motors (what make)?

what will be the specs on the arm and magnets?

will all amateur classes use handouts?

when are handout motors typically "handed out"?

will the .032" clearance option be used?

i know that eurosport is using multiple mains. are any of the amateur classes using multiple mains?

that should do for now.

wayne h.

[LoudCat]

Wayne,

Maybe we should dig up all the posts asking many of the same questions before the race last year. It will save a lot of typing.

All amateur classes will use a hand out motor. C12E will not use a handout motor.

1/24 and 1/32 Eurosport are the only two classes using multiple main format.

GTP (because race is being held on the flat track) and GT-12 will use Eurosport clearance rules which allow you to start the race at .032 minimum.

Motors are handed out at or just after sign up time. Racers get an hour or so to test the motor, try gearings and so on.

I was at the Nats in 2001 and 2003 and from what I saw and everyone said, the handout motors were excellent. They have been extremely consistent and reliable. Out of the hundreds of motors we had one or two failures. Last year all the motors were supplied by ProSlot.

[Copperhead]

Just a thought, I see by the GTP rules that Super Wasps, Contenders, SSuper16cs and S16ds are all allowed in GTP.
It might simplify things considerably for the USRA to reconsider the choice of class and run GT-1s on the Twister so only one type of handout motor will be needed.

It will look so cool to see GT-1 and LMP cars on that beautiful track. GTP is really a bank track class anyway and I hear S16cs will blow anything else away in GTP on a fast track.
Has anyone ever even made a main with anything other than a S16c in GTP?
I for one would love the challenge of driving low downforce rocketships on a flat track. I'm a masochistic type like Jawn.

Copper