Scratch built scale cars from Brazil

[La Cucaracha]

Sam- You`re obviously a retro geek so stop posting and dissing real slot cars.

[D.Z.]

Sam- You`re obviously a retro geek so stop posting and dissing real slot cars.

To funny coming from you. A geek saying someone is a geek. Lol. Retro IMO is more of a real slot car then any other form of slot racing. They actually resemble real cars. They have real front wheels that actually function. I do respect wing cars and wing car racers but wing cars look nothing like a real car. Different strokes for different folks.

[Sam pan]

Mike,
I just said I don't like the cars. Like you did. Exactly like you did. Don't you get it when you are being mocked? I am mocking you. WOW.....Freakin' WOW! So freakin' sad. Now go race sompthin'. Anything. Wing,GTP,Can-Am,Retro,brass,steel,stamped,scratch,womps,FCR,Ret ro-Wing,plastic,ANYTHING,and stop with your constant beeatching and moanin'.

Sam
Retro Geek and proud of it.

[Sam pan]

I simply want to allow scratchbuilt chassis' along with flexys in the group 10 realm. Not because they are better than flexys but just because some of us like to make things. It would be a novel addition to scale racing that just might pull a few more racers back to the track.

You could bar EDM spring steel so it would be nod to Retro in the sense that they are soldered together by the racer. The intention is to compete with stamped steel and follow the basic group 10 format: 3 1/4 wide, front wheels optional, pillowblock type axle holders, pans optional etc.



Who's with me??

Already race 'em. Actually I "run" them. We have only had impromptu grudge races. Gp-20 full C can motors. Wing bodies. With a little added weight we could run the Gp-10 bodies.
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[D.Z.]

Mike,
I just said I don't like the cars. Like you did. Exactly like you did. Don't you get it when you are being mocked? I am mocking you. WOW.....Freakin' WOW! So freakin' sad. Now go race sompthin'. Anything. Wing,GTP,Can-Am,Retro,brass,steel,stamped,scratch,womps,FCR,Ret ro-Wing,plastic,ANYTHING,and stop with your constant beeatching and moanin'.

Sam
Retro Geek and proud of it.

He can dish out criticism but doesn't like it when someone doesn't agree.

Maybe he should start up his own series or form of slot racing since he knows best. Good luck buddy! I want all forms of slot racing to do well even if I don't agree or like certain rules.

[D.Z.]

Mike,
I just said I don't like the cars. Like you did. Exactly like you did. Don't you get it when you are being mocked? I am mocking you. WOW.....Freakin' WOW! So freakin' sad. Now go race sompthin'. Anything. Wing,GTP,Can-Am,Retro,brass,steel,stamped,scratch,womps,FCR,Ret ro-Wing,plastic,ANYTHING,and stop with your constant beeatching and moanin'.

Sam
Retro Geek

Lols.... :-)

[dlatch]

Already race 'em. Actually I "run" them. We have only had impromptu grudge races. Gp-20 full C can motors. Wing bodies. With a little added weight we could run the Gp-10 bodies.
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Alright Sam. That's all the encouragement I need. I'm gonna build one for the GT cars we run at Gaithersburg and just show up with it. I'll implore everyone to "humor me" and I'll be in the field.

[Ramcatlarry]

The "C-1" class was fun in the late 1980's and early 1990's before the widespead ability to cut springsteel came into being.. C-1 and C-2 followed the same general specs of a group 12 motor and Lemans race car bodies with the C-1 having looser rules and the the C-2 having 'production' stamped steel frames and full 'c' can motors. The C-1 class evolved into the 'open-12 class of ISRA/USA and GT-12 class of USRA. The $55 frame price would allow them to race in USRA today, I think. All of them could run in open 12, but may not be suited for different tracks.

The "CSBG" spring steel perimeter frame with brass pans was introduced at the 1989-90 Chicago worlds. I still have one.

[La Cucaracha]

Be nice to see some of the guys building brass and wire chassis put their talents to better use.

A class like this would be more interesting to me than Retro as it is now.

[larrymatt]

WOW...

Sounds great Mike...

Why not get something ORGANIZED, and actually RACE this new class...

Let me know when you get 35-40 racers...

LM

[wjdougherty]

This is Jim Stinnett's CASRA Winning C1 car from 2002. Brass/piano wire chassis and strap can 12 motor. What eventually killed the class? 1) Chassis was fragile and only several racers were capable of building these for everyone; and 2) The introduction of the first S7 Asp chassis as an affordable, sturdy, and well handling chassis that most any racer could assemble.

From there, racers shelved their wire cars and everyone went GT12 racing in CASRA, AMCA, ISRA and USRA...

[Bill from NH]

I used to like how Jim flattened his first wire cars. A 6" Sears stationary belt sander. It might sound crude, but it was effective. Tom Adams built some great C1 cars too, but they were rather fragile.

[RomanK]

WOW...

Sounds great Mike...

Why not get something ORGANIZED, and actually RACE this new class...

Let me know when you get 35-40 racers...

LM

Bet there wasn't 35 - 40 first time they raced Retro cars. Everything starts somewhere, besides, a track only has 8 lanes ;-)

[Ramcatlarry]

Before we put the scale bodies on these cars, the extra light weight cars were just box 12/15 wing cars. The heavier frames with floppy pans and other panels were also wing car frames for tracks where the light cars crashed too much. The grp 12 motors of the day were heavy compared to the FK and PD's of today - AND pillow block or tube angle winders fell apart quite often when they crashed. Soldering wasn't just for changing motors.

That CASRA car has a center hinge!

[D.Z.]

Be nice to see some of the guys building brass and wire chassis put their talents to better use.

A class like this would be more interesting to me than Retro as it is now.

These racers talents and building skills are right where they want to be. It is what they like to race and build. Not what you think they should race and build.

Start your own class or form of racing you feel is better. Nothing wrong with doing your own thing. I won't participate because I think what you like is boreing and would be a waste of talent.

Different strokes for different folks, Mike. Lols...